Neon City Text
Eine Abfolge von Bildern wie eine Erzählung. Auf dem Gang durch die Stadt fliegen mich visuelle Ideen an. Plakate, Wandbilder, Graffitimauern…alles spricht eine Sprache. Im Gehen entstehen die eigenen Bildideen, die dann auf Leinwänden ausagiert werden. Andere Ideen finden in den Strom aus Papierarbeiten Eingang, der immer nebenher fließt. Ein leuchtend grüner Fluss in Pisa zum Beispiel.
Fotografien tragen diese Erzählung genauso weiter. Sie sind ein Strang, der parallel zur Malerei besteht. Alles hat mit der realen Welt zu tun, jedes Medium hat seine Eigenart.
Die Fotografien sind wie Filmstills aus der Erzählung genommen. Sie transportieren Momente aus dem Flow der Bilderfolge. Citywalk…hier in Rom.
Es gibt immer wieder auch figürliche Bilder im Flow der Ideen. Abstrakte Ideen sind ja immer das, was mir als Künstlerin visuell vorschwebt, daher ist die Figur immer jenseits von ihnen und also nicht mit im Bild. In anderen Bildern ist aus irgendwelchen Gründen jemand mit ins Blickfeld geraten und hält sich dort auf, begleitet die malerische Idee oder ist ein Teil von ihr.
Daniela Trixl
In the Wide Field of Abstraction
Daniela Trixl in conversation with Susanne Prinz
SP: Your paintings display technical and thematic differences, and in some cases they are quite considerable. Is this a matter of conscious distinction from the lines of abstraction that have been defined by art history? Or to put it provocatively, do you wish to avoid being pinned down?
DT: It is important for me to be able to move freely in the field of abstraction, to create references to well-known positions, but also to go further and find my own images. To my mind, an abstract image does not necessary require anything super-personal or impersonal; on the contrary, I see it as expressing the person by means of gesture or a very individual style of painting.
SP: So art history is not unimportant to you as a foil – if I understood correctly – but it is quasi internalised, so that everything resembling a citation is not explicit but rather originates from a big store of images that you have absorbed in the course of your work.
DT: I wanted to expand my field of activity and so I did seek those references for a certain period. But recently, I am coming to the point where I use ideas and motifs from my immediate, everyday world. By taking ideas for my paintings from the visual world, I actually complete the process of abstraction all over again.
SP: That seems almost like an approach to abstraction in spirit. So you have taken a step back, out of the world of images that constituted your system of reference for a while.
DT: Usually, there are ideas as starting points. In the process of painting they free themselves once again, in a completely different way; that is something that happens best in large-format works, because there you confront the image on an equal, one to one basis.
SP: As you collect your images and your ideas outside the studio, does that mean that the concept of the flaneur means something to you, perhaps? Do you see your paintings as translations of specific impressions?
DT: The attitude of the flaneur – in the sense of strolling through the world and absorbing things – is certainly part of my working method. However, subsequently I am very interested in what happens to the impressions when – in the studio – they turn into visualised images themselves. In that context, I do move further away from the impression viewed than the Impressionists, for example, because I use the found phenomena as a trigger to set something else in motion.
SP: Sometimes a kind of painterly gesture also slips in.
DT: Actually, to me “gestural” was always more of an aggravating expression, something from the 50s or 60s, rather a cliché of abstract paintings. Yet perhaps for that very reason, I am prompted to do that kind of thing again today, because it is somewhat frowned upon. But I am not concerned with gesture first and foremost; it is more that it simply happens in the course of the various references that emerge either consciously or unconsciously in my paintings.
SP: Some of the paintings dating from last year use new, glowing colours. Is there a definite colour system behind this – is it a declination of specific contrasts, for example?
DT: No, the extreme colour combinations arise only in the moment, on the canvas. However, I do use a definite palette. Of course, there are the primary colours yellow-red-blue. Recently, in addition to those there have been magenta, orange, light yellow. There is a conscious decision behind this change in palette, certainly, but it is not unique for each painting. Beyond that, I do have a fundamental tendency towards unusual colour combinations. Some paintings also evolve from motifs that prescribe specific new contrasts – like flags or posters. A mixed white emerged as one background, for example, or a velvety black that creates greater intensity as a contrast to the colours, even those colours that have been part of my palette for a long time.
SP: The result is a cool, elegant surface as well.
DT: The coolness also derives from the hard surface, which prevents any floundering. The colours are applied rather thinly so that they almost create the appearance of paint on paper.
SP: Is it important to you what materials you find on the stretcher frame? Could they be unusual materials?
DT: The materiality of the painting is not really such an issue. I prefer to keep it as pure and uncomplicated as possible. That is why there are a lot of paintings on paper that are repeated on canvas, because I tend to see things in a virtual way. The image can be reflected on different backgrounds; on a white grounded canvas, on paper, or directly on the wall.
SP: Your paintings also seem to be subject to a poetic concept, a subtext that connects them. How important is the narrative aspect? Would the terms filmic sequence or series be more productive to describe your pictures?
DT: Perhaps it is a kind of filmic approach, fetching ideas from the visual world and allowing them to flow into paintings. Differing sequences then come together in hanging and result in a kind of “film” for the viewer, but they are abstract sequences. At most, they trigger associations without telling any stories, and the titles offer no additional significance, either. They simply accumulate on the side. Instead, you could say that rows of paintings are produced over several months. You can also refer to them as series.
SP: The term “series” has something of the principle about it, does that bother you?
DT: No, not really. I understand the “series” as a completed row of pictures that was painted within a specific period of time. It is not a motif in all its variations; different ideas find their way into it.
SP: Concerning the role of art history: are you more interested in the breaks or the continuities in painting?
DT: Actually, I am always interested in how a position in painting takes up traditions but discovers the way to something new as well, which may be offensive at first or have an alienating effect. Usually, something like that does not come out of thin air – there is always a link to the positions that went before.
SP: The question was also intended as a query about special heroes in art history. Do you have any?
DT: During the year that I spent living in Florence, I took a great interest in the Renaissance artists; in mural paintings by Masaccio, for example, which have something very colourful and two-dimensional about them. The paintings of Pontormo – which I got to know there – also impressed me with their cool palette. In more recent art history, it has been artists of Abstract Expressionism like Barnett Newman or de Kooning that have been important, because they continued from the starting point of European painting and liberated it.
SP: There have always been isolated artists like Matisse, whose late work sometimes seems close to your work to me, or people like Palermo, Ruthenbeck, Knoebel and Giese, who worked together closely and were also perceived as a group initially. To put it another way, you obviously don’t like the programmatic – but what about cooperative work? Would that interest you?
DT: If “programmatic” means that the programme is prescribed by a group, it’s true that I do not like it much. But I do appreciate cooperation with other artists, if it is possible to create references between the works, and tensions arise as a result. Then, it is almost more interesting if you get together now and then and see what happens.